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[Filtered AWAY from George]
[AUDIO: There's a short pause before Eddie speaks.]

I have a favor to ask. I'm trying to help my warden understand a more modern approach to romance. What I need is a woman, between the ages of twenty-four and thirty-two.. thirty-three, who would be willing to take him out on a date. Maybe a private dinner, drinks afterward, and a starry walk in the CES or something. He'll know up front what this is; this isn't some trick and he won't be expecting to fall in love or anything.

I don't have anything specific to offer as a thanks, but I'm pretty resourceful if there's something specific you're looking for. I'm not providing any weapons and I reserve the right to refuse anyone for any reason.. because even knowing what's going on, he's still a nice guy and I don't want to mess with him. I'm really just looking to help him out.

Oh, it's George Crabtree. Some of you might know him.

[Private to George]
I want to know more about your time. Are there any books, fiction or non-, that you can recommend? I'm a pretty fast reader.

Re: Private

Date: 2011-07-11 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
Not really, no. The Yellows were 'police' I guess, and our clothes had to be within certain regulations, and designed for wear at certain points in time. But Yellows just wore a spot on their lapel like the rest of us.

But if they go out of business, where will you buy things then? And what will all the Greys workers there do?

Private

Date: 2011-07-12 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
Wow. There really isn't anything like it in your world, I don't think. Like the suits, I mean. I wish I could figure out a better way to explain it, unless you understand the idea already even without the parallel? If not, I can try to explain it a little better.

America is a consumerist society. A lot of businesses do the same thing. It's actually illegal for one business to be the only one doing something; they call it a "monopoly" and the business is forced to break into pieces so that there's competition because otherwise they can charge whatever they want and control their product however even if it's completely ridiculous. So, if I wanted to buy a soda, for example--you know what that is, right? It's a kind of drink--, then there's two main companies and several smaller ones and I could buy from any of them all in the same store generally. If one went out of business, there would still be the others to choose from and, generally, new businesses are opening and closing every day, so there's always more people trying to make it and succeeding or failing. If a company goes out of business, then the workers get fired or "laid off" and they look for a new job. Most people work ten different jobs in their life, if not more. It's not like it used to be, because the business world is faster-paced and has higher demands of people. It's also less personal; most of the stores people work in are owned by corporations that control hundreds of the stores across the country and so it's pretty damn easy for the corporation to fire a few hundred people or whatever is needed because they probably haven't even met the workers they're firing.

Does that make sense? ..Do you enjoy reading at all? There's this book called "Syrup" by Max Berry that gives a better idea of how consumerism works. It's exaggerated, but it's pretty accurate.

Re: Private

Date: 2011-07-12 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
I follow, mostly.

It doesn't sound any better than home. Entirely different, but no better.

I'll read anything I can get my hands on. I'll look it up.

Private

Date: 2011-07-12 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
You're always welcome to ask more questions if you think of any. I really don't mind explaining things and it's worth knowing about your culture too for the sake of comparison. It's kind of a social experiment in the kind of way most people only dream of or get from science fiction.

It has its perks. Namely, if you know how to work the system, you'll be content and happy for the rest of your life.

I recommend it then.

Re: Private

Date: 2011-07-12 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
I'm trying to pick as many things up by observation as I can.

But if you don't, you're miserable. Same with any system.

Private

Date: 2011-07-16 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
I think that's the best way to be, Eddie.

Well yeah, sure, but that's why you find your gimmick or your edge.

Re: Private

Date: 2011-07-16 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
What is a gimmick of all things?

Private

Date: 2011-07-18 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
A gimmick. It's like a plan or an image that you think of or construct for yourself -- or for something.. anything, really -- that you use to make it more attractive or appealing, generally to help it sell better. In my world, because there were so many companies to choose from and so many people trying for the same job and everything like that, gimmicks became the catchy way to sell people. If you weren't the smartest or the most attractive, you came up with an image to make people think you were.

Private - why you make me review my notes?

Date: 2011-07-18 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
Yeah. Statistically, twenty percent of all conversations include deception of some kind, meaning you run into, on average, two to five different lies per day. The only reason you keep trusting people is because you believe--and I mean people, not just you--that if people are honest in one situation, they'll continue to be that way because we like to sort people and believe them to be consistent. It's easier on our minds that way.

Re: Private - :D

Date: 2011-07-18 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
That, I can understand.

I just never heard it described as 'gimmicks' before.

Private.

Date: 2011-07-18 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
Well, a gimmick is a special kind of lie, like a facade or a 'white lie.' People like classifying things to justify them easier.

Re: Private.

Date: 2011-07-18 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
You mean like acting like a proper Swatchman when you're really sneaking your own Green at night?

Private.

Date: 2011-07-20 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
I hesitate to say yes without really understanding what you mean.

Re: Private.

Date: 2011-07-20 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
Oh. Well... A Swatchman is a doctor. Green is a painkiller.

Private.

Date: 2011-07-22 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
Maybe. Or it could be that you are a Swatchman and you admit to sneaking Green because it's something no one else does and some people might like that kind of rebellion.

Re: Private.

Date: 2011-07-22 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com
But that would get you demerited so much it'd be instant... yes.

Private.

Date: 2011-07-23 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acertifieduser.livejournal.com
I'm glad we're coming to understand each other.